Competitive Pricing?

We’re often asked why 4th Bin charges fees to collect trash.  We’re asked questions like:  Doesn’t the Dept of Sanitation take it for free?  Other companies will do it for free, or pay me, why won’t you?

To quickly answer those questions:  1- the Dept of Sanitation is getting out of the e-waste business (see our page on the NYS legislation).  2 – Yes, other companies will do it for free or pay you for your stuff.  Sounds good, right?  But it’s not the right thing to do or the right way to handle your stuff.  See our post on this topic.

So, hopefully, our clients understand that there are costs to properly collect e-waste and leaves us helping to determine how our pricing stacks up.  I’m going to go out on a limb and say we’re competitively priced or less expensive than our competitors.  How do I know?  Well, here’s one example.  There’s a large, well-known building management company in the city who charges their tenants to remove e-waste.  Oddly enough, they charge their tenants and then expect their e-waste vendor to pay them for the materials or take it for free.  We know this because that’s the answer we received when they contacted us to collect their e-waste and we quoted a price.  Speaks volume, I say.

Anyway, here’s their price list:

Standard Desktop Printer $26.00 each
Large Printer/Copier $98.00 each
Free Standing Printer/Copier $172.00 each
LED/LCD Monitor (up to 30 inches) $26.00 each
LED/LCD Monitor (over 30 inches) $52.00 each
CRT/Monitor or TV (up to 30 inches) $33.00 each
CRT/Monitor or TV (over 30 inches) $78.00 each
Keyboard $11.00 each
CPU $26.00 each
UPS Batteries $33.00 each
Standard Batteries $39.00 per 5 gal bucket
Various Electronics $2.00 per pound
Toner Cartridges $10.00 each
Microwave $26.00 each

At a minimum, their charges are 30% above what 4th Bin charges.  In many cases, it’s more than double.  With at least one item, it’s just criminal ($11 per keyboard? Really??).

Yes – we’re running a business and need to make money (we have bills to pay, too).  But we’re not in it to rip off our customers.  Not everyone can afford our services – we understand that.  But when you contact 4th Bin for a quote, remember to refer back to the price list you see above and compare us to what you could be paying elsewhere.

-Michael

 

4th Bin & R/GA e-Waste Drive Collects over 1/2 Ton of Electronics

 

We at the 4th Bin talk a lot about what differentiates us from our competitors especially from an ethical, educational, and cultural prespective. Below is an exciting e-waste sustainability program we developed with R/GA, a world renowned design agency headquartered in New York City, that truly walks the walk when it comes to electronics recycling both at the office and at home.  The event was launched to better educate R/GA employees on the hazards of e-waste and the ecological impact it has on our environment.  The event also became the catalyst to launch an ongoing program whereby R/GA employees receive door-to-door e-waste pickups.

For a full slideshow of the event, please visit our Google+ Page.

Situation Analysis: In 2009, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency an estimated 2.37 million tons of unwanted electronics were thrown away in the United States. Electronic waste, also known as e-waste, causes serious health and pollution issues if it enters the regular waste stream. Companies and consumers continuously upgrade their electronics and responsibly recycling outdated and unused electronics is a major step in alleviating the harms of irresponsible electronic waste management.

Realizing the domestic environmental issue and the opportunity to recycle electronic waste at a local level, R/GA teamed up with the 4th Bin for an e-cycling drive.

Who:

1. The 4th Bin is the only electronic waste collection and recycling company in New York City specializing in proper e-waste recycling. It provides door-to-door collection services to residential and corporate locations including offices, schools, hospitals, factories, and residences. Michael Deutsch and John Kirsch began The 4th Bin mission in 2009. Since its conception, the company disposed of approximately 1,000,000 pounds of e-waste.

2. R/GA is a full service agency that transforms the way people interact with brands. A commitment to design, technology, strategy, and innovation defines R/GA’s continuing legacy as an iconoclast in the world of communications and marketing.

Founded in 1977 by Bob and Richard Greenberg in New York City, the agency has grown to eight offices on four continents, with locations in Chicago, London, San Francisco, Sao Paulo, Singapore, and Stockholm. As a global brand, R/GA strives to serve as a strong example for environmentally sustainable practices the world over.

What:

In late 2011, R/GA teamed up with The 4th Bin to hold an e-cycling event on the R/GA NYC campus. The event was supported by a humorous campaign, built and designed by R/GA, called R.I.P, “Recycle In Peace,” and encouraged agency employees to “send their electronics to a better place” by properly recycling them with The 4th Bin. To incentivize action, participating employees were automatically entered in a raffle to win a one-year 50GB iCloud storage account.

On November 8th, 2011, The 4th Bin and R/GA held a recycling drive, collecting unused electronics outside of the R/GA NYC office. The agency support for the program was so strong that the engagement was extended by two weeks. R/GAers helped amass over 1,000 pounds (and to continuing to grow) in electronic equipment for donation and recycling.

Why:

The 4th Bin and R/GA share a vision of creating a strong commitment within their communities to environmental sustainability. In the United States, only 20 percent of the 400 million electronic items disposed of each year are properly recycled. These contents of the recycled products can be reused or used to make new products.

The 4th Bin and R/GA recognize the magnitude of the worldwide problem and saw an opportunity to strengthen R/GA’s commitment to furthering these recycling efforts by implementing the internal e-cycling program.

Results:

The e-waste recycling was a great success, bringing in over 1,000lbs of electronic waste to be either properly disposed of or refurbished for various purposes including resale, fundraising and artistic creation. 4th Bin Co-founder and Senior VP of Business Development, John Kirsch, summed up the experience saying, “I believe the event was extremely successful from an educational and sustainability perspective highlighting the complex issue of e-waste. The R/GA team was able bring in a responsible e-waste option [4th Bin] thus integrating an ethical collection solution not only for their office, but for their employee homes as well. We were impressed with R/GA’s dedication to help develop and create this unique system with 4th Bin; we think it is a perfect model for companies of all sizes.”

4th Bin Vendors

Transparency Matters

We were inspired by Apple Inc. when, as part of their effort for greater transparency, they listed their “Supplier Responsibility Report”.  This report was released as a result of recent negative media regarding their main supplier’s worker conditions (you can read it here).  The report is a a fascinating and insightful look into the company’s global culture.  It spans such diverse topics as COC’s, Auditing, Education and Development and, most interestingly, Supplier Responsibility Reports.  We applaud Apple for providing these reports and actually putting themselves “out there”.  While Apple is by no means a perfect company, the publishing of these documents demonstrates that they are serious about openness and corporate responsibility.

Transparency at 4th Bin

When it comes to openness and corporate responsibility, we feel very much the same way as Apple.  Our customers SHOULD KNOW who 4th Bin contracts and the vendors who ultimately handle their e-waste are after it leaves their home or office.  Granted, 4th Bin isn’t even in the same stratosphere of economic activity as Apple (other than Google, Facebook and the large banks, who is?).  But Apple is setting a good example and, obviously, we share the same belief that transparency is necessary.

Transparency in the E-waste Industry

We can say with full confidence that our competitors will not be so transparent.  We call it “selective transparency”, at the very least.   If you ask most companies  who collect e-waste in NYC (whether it is direct door-to-door, mail back, retail drop-off point or e-waste event) to fully disclose their downstream (industry-speak for where their stuff really goes…), we guarantee they will not do so.  Or disclose what their main business really is, they will not.  For example many companies now pose as legitimate e-waste collectors and recyclers, but are actually a regional scrap company.  Sure…you’ll get some answers.  And some of those answers will sound great.  But it may not be the complete answer.  And what they’re leaving out is the concerning part .

Our List

So, with that, we would like to list all 4th Bin vendors and partners (we have no suppliers per se) and their locations and industry.

Apple Inc.- Technology
Cupertino, CA
Avenue X Group
- IT Consulting
New York, NY
AW Systems- IT Consulting
New York, NY
Broadway Green Alliance- Facilities Consultants
New York, NY

Caster Communications- Public Relations
Wakefield, RI
Call 2 Recycle
- Battery Recycling
Atlanta, GA
CC Rentals-Trucking
New York, NY, NJ
Control Group Inc.- IT Management, Application Development
New York, NY
Crexendo Inc.- SEO Consulting
Tempe, AZ
Cumulus Global- Cloud Computing, Google Apps Consultants
Westborough, MA
Cyber City Inc.- IT Consulting
New York, NY
City Iron- Metal Management
New York, NY
ExchangeMyPhone- Mobile Phone Recycling
Brooklyn, NY
Facebook Inc.- Software
Palo Alto, CA
Google Inc.- Technology
Mountain View, CA
Help With a Smile- IT Consulting
New York, NY
Ivan Experts- Apple Consultants
New York, NY
Manhattan Mini Storage
-Storage
New York, NY
Marathon-, IT Consulting
Brooklyn, NY
Macktez- IT Consulting
New York, NY
Microsoft Inc. - Technology
Redmond, WA
Mouse and Men- IT Consulting
New York, NY
NETtech- IT Repair and Sales
New York, NY
POINT- IT Consulting
New York, NY
Ramp Up Technology- IT Consulting
New York, NY
Salesforce Inc.- CRM Cloud Computing
San Francisco, CA
Sinu- IT Consulting
New York, NY
Starlight Media- IT Consulting
New York, NY
Sprint PCS- Telecommunications
Overland Park, KS
Square- Technology
San Francisco, CA

Twitter Inc.
- Technology
San Francisco, CA
Uhaul Inc
.-Trucking
New York, NY
Valiant Technology- IT Consulting, Application Development
New York, NY
Vertical Response- Software
San Francisco, CA
WeRecycle! - E-Steward Electronic Recyclers
Mount Vernon, NY